This came from an unknown source

San Bernardino County Sheriff

Take it with a grain of salt until we hear more.

This is a developing story which may interest you. Two days ago the Victorville station sent a video to KNBC news in LA about a missing person case. It was a short video done on a phone. NBC wanted the info for a news story. After it was sent NBC contacted the station and asked if they listened to it. In the background you can clearly hear a derivative talking loudly about how he beat a guy with a baton and “stomped” on his head numerous times. Other detectives could be heard laughing about it. The Vidieo was filmed in the detectives office at the station. The det name is xxxxxx. and is the son of ret LT xxxxxxxx.
The department is scrambling to keep NBC from airing it by saying they are investigating it. Don’t think it’s going to work.

Anyone confirm or deny?

16 thoughts on “This came from an unknown source

  1. Sorry for the spelling. Typed info on my phone. Heard a little more on story a few minutes ago. Anyway after Captain of station heard tape, he called down to IA and pulled a “P” number. Now that “P’ number is pulled he can tell NBC he can’t talk about it since it’s”on going”. Falls under Peace Officer Bill of Rights. Also heard they tracked down a guy who was arrested and he got a pretty good trashing.

  2. Can you say INSTITUTIONAL? The fact the detective would feel comfortable enough to talk about it in front of numerous other detectives clearly shows that he expected no one to report it because it is accepted/ignored by the brass. If it hadn’t been caught on tape, no one would have known.

  3. I watching to see how this plays out. The post is getting a lot of hits but I have not heard from any of my regular sources. Part of me says it is too far-fetched to be true and part of me believes it is very true. I’ve certainly witnessed such behavior myself but that was before the days of the internet and social media. Kinda crazy but we shall see.

  4. I’m hearing that what’s posted here is a pretty accurate description of what occurred, that it is the son of a retired LT (whose name has appeared on this blog related to the POST scandal) and that the suspect was beat down pretty good.

  5. No need to take this one with a grain of salt. It happened and the story is growing legs. The captain and lieutenant at the station are claiming the use of force was unreported and they didn’t know about it but obviously it was common knowledge with a lot of people because the detective is talking about it in front of numerous people and they’re all laughing.

  6. Yes, one of my best sources just called and confirmed the story. Also told the FBI is requesting information on it.

  7. I’m sure Doug Saunders or Hugo Valdez will make up info to go along with it.

    • I’ve never known Doug to be untruthful but I think everyone on the blog knows what I think of Hugo.

    • Doug may tell the truth, but only if allowed to by his employer. It’s no secret they are on leashes over there.

      • It seems former shark captain Sam Lucia is not doing very well as a commander. Lots of scandals have come up since he has been at Victorville. Danny Maddox stepped into deep shit on this one. FBI is going to be around here a long time.

  8. This is gonna be business as usual. Slap on the wrist and move on. Another lieutentant’s son at Victorville station, Raynolds, hit a handcuffed suspect in the head with a flashlight for mouthing off to him, sending him to the hospital for stitches, and then lies about it in his report. Lucia and Lt. Billings know the truth about what happened but Billings tells the Sgt doing the UOF report to write it so it’s justified. The Sgt can only write so much and Reynolds ends up getting a negative personnel report when he should have been fired and prosecuted. Like I said, business as usual, also in the wrist and move on.

  9. Maddox…. Was his father involved in the POST issue? You beat the other blog again, as usual. So many stories should go somewhere, yet don’t. We shall see….

  10. Any truth to the rumor going around that the VC lieutenant who was tapped to be the next 17C put in his retirement papers a day or two after the P number was drawn on this incident and will be gone in a couple of weeks?

    • The Lt. Trying to escape internal affairs or the FBI? No worries I hear the FBI makes house calls. If sudden retirements are considered justice good luck to those trying to skate. It won’t save McMahon either.

  11. California STEP Act

    California Penal Code Section 186.21

    The Legislature hereby finds and declares that it is the
    right of every person, regardless of race, color, creed, religion,
    national origin, gender, gender identity, gender expression, age,
    sexual orientation, or handicap, to be secure and protected from
    fear, intimidation, and physical harm caused by the activities of
    violent groups and individuals. It is not the intent of this chapter
    to interfere with the exercise of the constitutionally protected
    rights of freedom of expression and association. The Legislature
    hereby recognizes the constitutional right of every citizen to harbor
    and express beliefs on any lawful subject whatsoever, to lawfully
    associate with others who share similar beliefs, to petition lawfully
    constituted authority for a redress of perceived grievances, and to
    participate in the electoral process.
    The Legislature, however, further finds that the State of
    California is in a state of crisis which has been caused by violent
    street gangs whose members threaten, terrorize, and commit a
    multitude of crimes against the peaceful citizens of their
    neighborhoods. These activities, both individually and collectively,
    present a clear and present danger to public order and safety and are
    not constitutionally protected.

    California Penal Code Section 186.22.(a)

    Any person who actively participates in any criminal
    street gang with knowledge that its members engage in or have engaged
    in a pattern of criminal gang activity, and who willfully promotes,
    furthers, or assists in any felonious criminal conduct by members of
    that gang, shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail for a
    period not to exceed one year, or by imprisonment in the state prison
    for 16 months, or two or three years.

    So when’s CA AG’s Office going to have SBSD declared a violent street gang?

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